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A Shi’i-Sunni dialogue (also known as ‘The Right Path’) Letter 59 and 60<\/strong><\/p>\n

Letter 59<\/strong><\/p>\n

Muharram 28, 1330<\/p>\n

I Truth Manifests<\/strong><\/p>\n

1) I have never seen, in the past or in the present, anyone more gentle in his tone, more strong in his argument, than your own self. Now truth has manifested itself due to the proofs which you have brought forth, thus uncovering the mask of doubt, revealing the pleasant countenance of conviction.<\/p>\n

No longer do we claim that the meaning of “wali” and “mawla” in hadith al\u00adGhadir is “foremost,” or that it implies the “supporter,” or the like, nor anything akin to what that man who asked for a sure torment had suggested; your view regarding the “mawla” stands on firm grounds, and is taken for granted.<\/p>\n

II Evasion<\/strong><\/p>\n

2) I wish you agree to our interpretation of the said hadith which is endorsed by a group of learned \u2018ulema, including imam Ibn Hajar in his Al-Sawa\u2019iq al-Muhriqa, and al\u00adHalabi in his Sirat. They argue that even if we agree that he (\u2018Ali) is the most worthy of imamate, the [Prophet’s] intention here is futuristic; otherwise, he would have become the Imam in spite of the presence of the Prophet (pbuh) [which is an impossible situation, since the Prophet, as long as he was alive, was the sole Imam\u00adtr.], who did not mind the forthcoming of an Imam after him.<\/p>\n

It is as though the Prophet (pbuh) had said: “\u2018Ali shall be the Imam as soon as he receives the oath of allegiance;” so, such a situation will not collide with the precedence of the three Imams; it thus safeguards the honour of the good ancestors, may Allah Almighty be pleased with them all.<\/p>\n

Sincerely,<\/p>\n

Letter 60<\/strong>
\nEvasion Refuted<\/strong><\/p>\n

Muharram 30, 1330<\/p>\n

You have, may Allah support the truth through your person, asked us to be convinced that the gist of hadith al\u00adGhadir is that \u2018Ali is the most worthy of imamate when and if the Muslims choose him as such and swear the oath of allegiance to him, hence his priority to which the hadith hints is futuristic, rather than immediate. In other words, such a priority will take place when and if it is forcibly taken, rather than being actual, so that it does not clash with the caliphate of the three Imams who preceded him [in ruling the Muslims].<\/p>\n

We ask you in the light of the truth, the dignity of justice, the honour of fairness, and the logic of fair play, if you yourself are convinced of it so that we may follow suit and follow in your footsteps. Do you agree to give such an explanation yourself, or can it be attributed to you, so that we may follow in your footsteps and do as you do?<\/p>\n

I do not think that you are convinced or pleased with a view such as this. I am convinced that you yourself wonder about anyone who would accept to derive such a meaning for this hadith when the text does not at all suggest it, nor can anyone conceive it as such; nay, it even challenges the wisdom and discretion of the Prophet (pbuh)…, astaghfir-Allah.<\/p>\n

It neither agrees with his great deeds nor very serious statements made on the Ghadir Day, nor with the irrefutable proofs which we brought forth above, nor with what al\u00adHarith ibn al\u00adNu\u2019man al\u00adFahri understood, and what is emphasized by Allah and His Messenger, as well as all the companions.<\/p>\n

Yet even the pending priority does not actually agree with the general meaning of this hadith, for it obviously does not necessitate that \u2018Ali (as) should not have been the mawla of the three caliphs, nor the mawla of anyone who died while being contemporary to any of them.<\/p>\n

This is exactly the opposite of the conclusion driven home by the Prophet (pbuh) who asked: “Do I not have more authority over the believers than the believers themselves have?” and people answered him in the affirmative; then he (pbuh) said: “To whomsoever I have been the mawla (i.e. master of each and every Muslim individual, without any exception), \u2018Ali is his mawla.”<\/p>\n

So, as you see, nobody is made the exception [other than, of course, the person of the Prophet Himself.] implied in this statement; \u2018Ali is indeed the mawla without any argument. Both Abu Bakr and \u2018Umar, having heard the words of the Prophet (pbuh) on the Ghadir Day, said to \u2018Ali:1 “You have, O son of Abu Talib, become the mawla of every believing man and woman,”thus admitting that he had become the master of every believing man and woman, generalizing the application to all believing men and women since the sun set on the Day of the Ghadir.<\/p>\n

Once \u2018Umar was asked: “Your conduct with \u2018Ali is quite different from that of any other companion of the Prophet (pbuh).” \u2018Umar responded by saying: “Why, he is my mawla,” as stated by Dar Qutni on page 36 of Al-Sawa\u2019iq al-Muhriqa.<\/p>\n

He thus admitted that \u2018Ali was his master, and he (Ali) had not been chosen to be a caliph yet, nor had he yet received the oath of allegiance from anyone. Consider how his (\u2018Umar’s) statement proved that \u2018Ali was his mawla and the mawla of every believing man and woman right then, not by virtue of futurity, since the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him and his progeny, on behalf of the Almighty Allah, conveyed the same on the Ghadir Day. \u2018Umar once asked \u2018Ali to arbitrate in a case brought forth before him involving two bedouins disputants.<\/p>\n

One of them asked: “Is this man (\u2018Ali) to judge between us?” \u2018Umar immediately leaped in rage, took the man by the neck and said to him: “Woe unto you! Do you know who this man is? He is your mawla, my mawla, and the mawla of all believers; whoever rejects him as the mawla is certainly not a Muslim,” as stated near the conclusion of Chapter 11 of Ibn Hajar’s Al-Sawa\u2019iq al-Muhriqa. Those who have recorded this incident are quite a few.<\/p>\n

You, may Allah support the truth through your person, are aware of the fact that had the philosophy of Ibn Hajar and his supporters regarding the Ghadir hadith been accepted, the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him and his progeny, would have been proven to be tampering with his own mission and responsibility – we seek refuge with Allah against thinking in such a manner – hallucinating in his speeches and deeds – Allah is above letting His Messenger do that – without having, according to such a philosophy, any purpose in that awesome situation other than making an announcement that after \u2018Ali had been elected as caliph, he would be most fit for it, and that, the theory goes on, nobody should monopolize it, for \u2018Ali and all other companions, and Muslims in general, are in that respect equal. What characteristic did the Prophet, peace be upon him and his progeny, intend then and there to attribute to \u2018Ali, and \u2018Ali alone, from among all others who are well\u00adknown for their history in serving Islam, if such philosophy, O Muslims, is proven accurate?<\/p>\n

As regarding their claim that had \u2018Ali’s priority regarding the Imamate not been futuristic, he would have become then the Imam in spite of the presence of the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him and his progeny, we say that such a claim is indeed quite odd; it is the watering down of the truth, an unmatched misrepresentation which ignores the covenants of all prophets, caliphs, kings and princes to their successors. It overlooks the meaning of the hadith: “You to me are like Aaron to Moses except there will be no prophet after me.”<\/p>\n

It is an attempt to forget his statement, peace be upon him and his progeny, in the hadith relevant to his kin when he warned them saying, “Therefore, listen to him [to \u2018Ali] and obey him,” and to other nUmarous texts in this meaning. Even if we suppose that due to the presence of the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him and his progeny, \u2018Ali’s priority of the imamate could not be effective immediately, then obviously it had to be effective after his demise, following the unanimously accepted rule of interpreting a statement the absolute truth of which is unattainable by its closest meanings. As regarding the honour of the good ancestors, it is safeguarded without forcing such an interpretation as we will explain if necessary, Wassalam.<\/p>\n

Sincerely,<\/p>\n

1. This is quoted by Dar Qutni, as indicated near the conclusion of Section 5, Chapter One, of Al-Sawa\u2019iq al-Muhriqa by Ibn Hajar; so, refer to page 26. It is also narrated by many traditionists, each from his own source, and in their own books of traditions. Ahmad has quoted something similar from \u2018Umar of the ahadith narrated by al-Bara’ ibn \u2018Azib on page 281, Vol. 4, of his Musnad, which we have already quoted in Letter No. 54 above.
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